The Mother

Agenda

Volume 10

September 6, 1969

I told you that Indira was to come, but the President [Giri] is also coming, on the 14th ....

It's strange, from every side people seem to be as if driven to come here ....

Yes.

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Later

There's a curious thing: most people are afraid of the invisible, to such a point that when someone is dead (someone they loved when he was alive), they don't want to see him after his death!

I've had one more example today It's a woman who was murdered; I immediately took care of her psychic, it went away there. But a part of her vital stayed on, and she stayed on with them [the family]. I thought they would be happy – they were scared!... It's a curious thing. So I said, “Oh, it's very simple (laughing), I'll take her with me, like that....” You know, I have a crowd around me – it's not cumbersome in the least.

I don't understand. What is it?... I don't understand, because even when I was small and knew nothing (I didn't even know it really existed), I was never afraid of invisible things .... Why?... Someone without a body is less cumbersome than someone with a body – someone with a body takes up room, needs room; someone who's not alive doesn't take up any room, he may be there without hampering in the least .... So is it only the appearance people love – the body?... Strange.

But I've had hundreds of examples. Someone who, eight days earlier, was friendly with a person; the person dies, and eight days later, when he sees her in his dream, he drives her away brutally!... It happened several times.

It's strange.

Maybe because they're scared of misleading appearances – things of that sort? But one should be able to feel the difference... (Mother feels the air).

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(Soon afterwards, regarding Satprem's brother, who is beginning to take interest in the yoga.)

I must have seen your brother lately, because two nights ago, I think, Sri Aurobindo met someone and explained something to him, and in French; the person was surprised, so I said, “Oh, but Sri Aurobindo knows French very well!” He was explaining in French (I saw, we were on a road), and I am pretty certain it was your brother.

But it was really interesting: there was an overall vision of things to be learned, and we were on a beautiful road, quite a smooth road, and Sri Aurobindo said, “No, see, you have to climb that” – it was a steep path going up, a path of black, gluey soil (one wondered if one's foot wasn't going to slip at every step), as difficult as could be, and he said, “See, that's what you have to climb; when you reach the top, you will truly see.” I was there, saying to myself (he was speaking to someone, I didn't notice who it was, but now I think it must have been your brother), I said to myself, “It's strange” (because I didn't think Sri Aurobindo felt that way), “It's strange; so then, one should never be afraid of difficulty...” It went on for a long time, but it struck me a lot. I still see him, I remember, I saw Sri Aurobindo next to someone who was taller (your brother is tall, isn't he?), and he spoke to him, explained, then showed him the path; I saw the path: a path of quite a disgusting black soil, going up almost sheer, it was difficult. And he said, “That's it, that is what you must climb, and at the top, you see – at the top, you have the vision.”

In the morning, I wondered who was the person Sri Aurobindo spoke to, and now I clearly see it must have been your brother. Sri Aurobindo spoke in French, so your brother said, “Oh, you speak French,” and I said, “Oh, but Sri Aurobindo knows French very well!” (Mother laughs) It's amusing.