The Mother

Agenda

Volume 13

March 31, 1973

So, what would you like to tell me?

First, how are you?

I can't hear you. Are you asking how I am?...

Yes-you “can't hear”!

But what does it mean? I can only be well when... there's no I.

I have been asking myself a question.

Ah?

About that new consciousness. I can grasp (or guess) its contemplative or passive aspect, but not so well its dynamic or active aspect. I don't quite see how it ACTS – I understand the contemplative part, but how does it act?

I don't know. I have no idea.

But do you act or are you simply in...?

Yes, I act. But what exactly do you mean?... Yes, I act!

For example, when you are inside, in an inner state....

But I act much better than when – I appear to be inside, but that's not so. Everybody makes the same mistake.

Yes, but I fully understand.

When I am concentrated in that way, it's not that I am inside, I am in another kind of consciousness.

And it's vast, vast, vast, vast – vast.

Yes, but it's the active side of that consciousness that I don't....

But it doesn't have any side! It's a consciousness (gesture of pressure from above).... It has no side, it isn't passive or active – it's a consciousness... (same gesture of pressure) a consciousness pressing on the world.

(silence)

You see, you're trying to translate it mentally, which is impossible – impossible. You have to enter that consciousness... then only will you know what it is. There's no active or passive, no inside or outside – all that is replaced by something else... which I can't describe.... There are no words for it.

But for instance, personally, whenever I try to go there, into that consciousness, my main impression is of nonexistence.

Ah, no!

Individual nonexistence, I mean.

No....

It's wide, it's vast, but there's no more person, no more individual.

No. That's not it.... For me, all that is the past... (silence). Yes, I quite understand what you mean....

(Mother plunges in)